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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.08.18 16:08:00 -
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CCP's Mandatory 4-Hour Cooldown Period seems to have some side-effects. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.08.18 17:19:00 -
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Moneta Curran wrote:I thought it was starting until after down-time today.. so you could be jumping the gun with that assessment.
Make of this what you will: "Caldari highsec for an ice interdiction beginning on or about August 18 and running for a month, give or take." http://themittani.com/news/cfc-announces-caldari-ice-interdiction
"On or about" kinda leaves things wide open. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.08.19 01:54:00 -
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Eram Fidard wrote:You're assuming that ice is actually moving at the increased prices. No trade volume = no profit.
I'm not assuming. My wallet is definitely not assuming either. It's.....real. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.08.19 22:08:00 -
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Dyvim Slorm wrote:
The point remains the same though, it's still just a costing exercise the known cost of the ship sacrificed versus the value of the loot (assuming you don't bungle the hit of course).
The loot in mining ganks is not the main point at all. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.08.19 22:40:00 -
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Psychedelic Faynin wrote:
So, really. What is the point in playing this game.
There is no game here. It's already over.
For you, yeah.
Believe me, the Goons have you on their list, and if you join a legitimate Corp, or when they do find your main, your gaming life is going to get real interesting.
Then you will indeed see some game skills at work, most indeed. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
37323
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Posted - 2013.08.19 23:05:00 -
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Psychedelic Faynin wrote: That little number where you type your name and password in never goes above 50k. You are the one exaggerating.
Twist the numbers moar.
May and June regularly had the daily login approaching 60,000.
It is back to school and university time you know. Every. Single. Year.
In fact on May 6 it broke 63,000.
Why are you trying so desperately hard here, and only failing? |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
37324
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Posted - 2013.08.19 23:14:00 -
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Psychedelic Faynin wrote: Never seen it go above 50k. Cry moar.
Butt hurt?
You are the worst Troll ever to appear in these forums by a long shot. And I've been readin' and postin' for over 3 years.
Congratulations I guess.
Sorry you are so angry about yourself inside. I know. It hurts. And from WAY back. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
37329
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Posted - 2013.08.19 23:50:00 -
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Psychedelic Faynin wrote:
You've been a good goon pet. No go lie in the corner.
Sorry. I'm a Lone Wolf Low Sec Fuel Block Maker making a (financial) killing during these fine Interdictions. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
37380
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Posted - 2013.08.20 02:08:00 -
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That's it for me. "Psychedelic's" postings have me doing this right now before retiring. Good night.
edit: Actually, it's at this stage now. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.08.21 00:58:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Captain Tardbar wrote:Dictionary.com defines risk as "exposure to the chance of injury or loss; a hazard or dangerous chance"
I bolded the word "chance" so you know that risk requires a chance which assumes possible survivability. When death or destructionis 100% guaranteed, then there is no risk, because it is outcome that has no chance of survivability. As has been explained, ship loss isn't the only factor that we have to take in to account for suicide ganking. There are plenty of things left to chance. You're trying to pidgeon-hole the definition of risk in to 'ship loss only'.
It's practically the same idiocy as the statement "the minerals you mine aren't free so buy them on the market".
Obviously nothing can be had ingame or in real life without economic or material exchange of some sort....even if its the energy used to go to the kitchen for more coffee.
Assigning the word "free" to the main argument is erroneous in that it assigns a value of zero to something which has already even been declared of a value, simply by default of its very existence.
It is not an argument.
It is a semantic derp. |
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.08.21 11:58:00 -
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They don't seem to realize that the moral high ground is the world's most expensive real estate. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.08.21 23:08:00 -
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You guys who think ganking high sec miners is risk free are just not thinking. At all.
Once they explode your ersatz ice cream truck, they have opened themselves up to a MONTH of possible ganking free and clear in High Sec by your little self.
That sounds pretty risky to me.
They run the risk of instant asplossion anytime they jump into high sec. Especially in returning to the area where the deed happened. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
38398
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Posted - 2013.08.21 23:10:00 -
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Rekon X wrote:
It is carebear pvp. PVP being it involves another player. Not that they can actually attack back.
You are just dead wrong there. See above. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
38400
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Posted - 2013.08.21 23:37:00 -
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Rekon X wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:You guys who think ganking high sec miners is risk free are just not thinking. At all.
Once they explode your ersatz ice cream truck, they have opened themselves up to a MONTH of possible ganking free and clear in High Sec by your little self.
That sounds pretty risky to me.
It is your choice to do the ganking. That does not make it a risk. It is a result. Sorry, fail again.
So, being criminally flagged in High Sec for 30 days by multiple entities is not risky.
Got it.
Maybe you need War Dec to understand how risky that proposition indeed is.
Or maybe hire some Mercs so you can experience 'risk free' High Sec mining for a week. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
38400
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Posted - 2013.08.21 23:41:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: So, being criminally flagged in High Sec for 30 days by multiple entities is not risky.
Got it.
Maybe you need War Dec to understand how risky that proposition indeed is.
Wouldn't affect him, he's too busy hiding behind an NPC corps skirts.
Thus my merc statement, most indeed.
ed: he must think some of us don't have billions to carry on with it for 'quite a while' actually. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
38404
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Posted - 2013.08.22 00:18:00 -
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Rekon X wrote:
It is not a risk. It is a result of your actions. You don't want the flag, don't do the ganking. It is your decision.
Yea, go wardec some more noobs, miners.
You are the carebears that scan down targets with alts, calculate their defenses, and then attack, but only if no one else is around that can attack back.
If you don't want the risk of being asploded in a belt, then don't mine.
Personally, I'd quit the game as then mining would indeed be most boring. Intolerable in fact.
I've only really had reason to gank AFK botting miners twice. I got tired of the 23 hours a day non-stop warping back and forth making my overview jump like mad. It's irritating.
I calculated nothing and scanned down nothing.
I just hopped in a Naga and went to work.
They are wonderful ships.
Also, it matters not that nobody is around after the gank to 'fight back'. There is nothing left by CONCORD but a pod........and they will definitely be CONCORDed themselves if they fire upon it. It's a bit hard to do. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
38404
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Posted - 2013.08.22 00:19:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Rekon X wrote: but only if no one else is around that can attack back.
Yea about that.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.08.22 00:24:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Rekon X wrote: It is not a risk. It is a result of your actions. You don't want the flag, don't do the ganking. It is your decision.
The result of a gankers actions and choices increases their risk of explosion at anothers hands, so there is a risk involved. Being an easy target is the result of a miners choices, and the risk of getting ganked while mining can be mitigated by changing those choices. Quote:Yea, go wardec some more noobs, miners
You are the carebears that scan down targets with alts, calculate their defenses, and then attack, but only if no one else is around that can attack back. Did you somehow miss the part where Krixtal states that he is in fact a miner?
My rather thin kill ratio after 3 1/2 years does indeed prove that.
But then in 2 1/2 years I've only lost one ship, a Deep Space Transport and that wasn't even mining.
I must be doing something right.
Maybe it's never being AFK. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
38509
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Posted - 2013.08.22 11:47:00 -
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baltec1 wrote: Please tell me how you gank people while you are away from the keyboard.
INORITE ? |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
38866
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Posted - 2013.08.23 10:21:00 -
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Attempting to apply logic formulas to EVE is about on par with dancing about architecture. |
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.08.23 12:56:00 -
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Paul Chung wrote:Oh look, a thread that's 23 pages. Guess I check out the last page and see what's going on. Oh look, it's Tippia engaging in yet another pointless, off topic argument. Maybe if she makes the argument convoluted enough, the other guy will run out of patience and she can declare victory. We all know how she loves to declare victory.
edit: fixed mah italics
Well, they can't ever be accused of being hollow victories |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
39176
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Posted - 2013.08.23 21:30:00 -
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Welp, that's it for the Thread.
Just like when Interwebz posters mention a certain 20th Century Northern European dictator, once The New Order is dragged into an EVE-O Thread it's all over.
Time to move on 'cause it's just shear insanity from here on out.
(And using them to prove a point ? You must be seriously wrong to be so seriously desperate.) |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.08.23 23:16:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:
The ACT OF GANKING requires you TO KILL YOUR TARGET. that ACT is not a GUARANTEED SUCCESS. THAT IS WHERE THERE IS RISK.
Thus. SUICIDE GANKING as an ACT has RISK The costs are obviously costs, the same as ANY OTHER COST.
noun: risk;GÇâplural noun: risks
a situation involving exposure to danger:
Since the Ganker has accepted the foregone conclusion that his ship will be lost, he is not risking his ship. He is voluntarily forfeiting it.
Therefore, I fail to see how the Ganker could in any way be put into "danger" within the mechanics of EVE, from the completely unarmed mining ship.
And don't be so idiotic as to deny the Oxford English Dictionary.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
39237
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Posted - 2013.08.23 23:28:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:
The ACT OF GANKING requires you TO KILL YOUR TARGET. that ACT is not a GUARANTEED SUCCESS. THAT IS WHERE THERE IS RISK.
Thus. SUICIDE GANKING as an ACT has RISK The costs are obviously costs, the same as ANY OTHER COST.
noun: risk;GÇâplural noun: risks a situation involving exposure to danger: Since the Ganker has accepted the foregone conclusion that his ship will be lost, he is not risking his ship. He is voluntarily forfeiting it. Therefore, I fail to see how the Ganker could in any way be put into "danger" within the mechanics of EVE, from the completely unarmed mining ship. And don't be so idiotic as to deny the Oxford English Dictionary. you mean aside from the fact that once his ship has been concorded the criminal flag means any one can shoot his pod without consequence?
For 15 minutes, an already accepted part of the forfeiture. And also, highly unlikely and easily avoidable. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
39465
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Posted - 2013.08.24 16:18:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:
Suicide ganking is the act to attempt to kill a target. The act is a risk because a kill is not garenteed. All suicide ganks follow this rule.
Again, it is not a risk as there is no danger involved, as the ship is voluntarily forfeit in the decision to act.
What you call a risk is a gamble. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
39465
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Posted - 2013.08.24 16:21:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:
if a kill is not guaranteed then there is obviously risk.
stop posting such completely moronic statements.
I don't think the words you are using mean what you think. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
39465
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Posted - 2013.08.24 16:24:00 -
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Risk: a situation involving exposure to danger (only definition I find in every dictionary.
Gamble : take a chanced action in the hope of a desired result |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
39465
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Posted - 2013.08.24 16:25:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I don't think we know.
Booo. Try harder. Even I don't chop your sentences to shreds. Very unclassy. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
39465
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Posted - 2013.08.24 16:31:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Risk: a situation involving exposure to danger (only definition I find in every dictionary.
Gamble : take a chanced action in the hope of a desired result you mean, like the danger of being a flashy red pod with nothing to show for it?
That's a different ship in a completely different set of circumstances at that point.
I bet 100 M ISK you are a Flat-Earther as well. Arguing with the visible cosmos to the very bitter end. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
39465
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Posted - 2013.08.24 16:32:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote: there wasn't much else in there to reply to, to be fair. i had to do something to pass the time until you posted something i could actually reply to.
But you did reply anyway so your very posting that statement is a self-contradiction. |
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
39573
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Posted - 2013.08.24 23:39:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Any ship that can be normally used in highsec, excluding grandfathered ships, by a player is gankable.
Does this mean we can now call Chribba "Grampy" ? |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
39767
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Posted - 2013.08.25 13:17:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Sentamon wrote:This might go better if goons didn't use 7 ships to gank an exhumer that only needs 2 for the job. They are more about quantity than quality
Yuppers. Lame KB padding. It's so soft they don't even need fabric softener. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
40198
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Posted - 2013.08.26 11:46:00 -
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Maliandra wrote:Step up your game goons, everyone is laughing right now .
No.
I'm celebrating their existence as I make a fortune in Rens ftw.
Brilliant. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
40414
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Posted - 2013.08.26 17:36:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Captain Tardbar wrote:Well there is an orca in Osmon right now so I suppose the interdiction has ended. The 18 Orca's we've killed in 2 days disagree but by all means please encourage people to keep bring out their Orca's, harpooning them is my speciality.
I take it they are too idiot to hang a Damage Control amirite ? I'll bet ISK. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
40806
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Posted - 2013.08.27 14:12:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Captain Tardbar wrote:Well there is an orca in Osmon right now so I suppose the interdiction has ended. The 18 Orca's we've killed in 2 days disagree but by all means please encourage people to keep bring out their Orca's, harpooning them is my speciality. I take it they are too idiot to hang a Damage Control amirite ? I'll bet ISK. Most of them yes, but if I get enough guys in fleet a Damage Control is no deterrent.
Indeed. But at least its a 'gesture' And not quite so embarrassing on the inevitable KM. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
40806
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Posted - 2013.08.27 14:14:00 -
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Maliandra wrote:Another day, another fail.
It's now been 14 full hours since any CFC member has entered any of the two systems with ice I've been watching.
You would think being the largest alliance in EVE, they'd at least have the numbers on their side.
In this case it was Market numbers. Genius.
Get over it. |
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